Sunday, November 7, 2010

Holiness and Love

I've been thinking about the word holy as in "be holy as I am holy." What does that mean? Does it mean be good? Be moral? Be ethical? Be productive? Be kind? Be pious? Be devout?

Check out what one source claims about the Hebrew and Greek words for holy.


The Hebrew word qodesh and the equivalent Greek word hagios, together with their derivatives, have been translated with one of three words, or derivatives, in our older English versions, namely: holy, hallowed, or sanctified. Another word is also used in modern versions, and generally in ecclesiastical literature, namely: sacred. Most of us have the idea that this word has the meaning of piety, or being pious, or to be devout. However, this conception is refuted when we read in Isa. 66:17 of the idolatrous people "who sanctify (qadash) themselves and purify themselves, to go to the gardens after an idol in the midst, eating swine's flesh and the abomination and the mouse ...." This refutation of the incorrect idea that "holy" means "to be pious", is further confirmed by the shocking discovery that one of the Hebrew words for a harlot (whore) is qedeshah, a derivative of qadash! Likewise, a male prostitute (or sodomite) is called a qadesh in Hebrew. This then causes us to seek for the real meaning of the word qodesh (its verb being qadash) and its Greek equivalent hagios. The Interpreter's Dictionary of the Bible, vol. 2, p. 817, summarises what most authorities say about qodesh and hagios, ". . . the meaning of 'separation' is paramount ... the more elemental meaning seems to lie with 'separation'." The same dictionary, in vol. 4, p.210, says, "The basic sense of the Hebrew root qadash, as of its Greek equivalent in the Bible—hagios, seems to be 'separateness'." Likewise, Vine's Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words repeatedly emphasises the fact of the fundamental meaning of the word to be: "separation" (see under "holiness" and "sanctification"). With the discovery of the true meaning of this word, namely, separate and separation, we can now understand why qodesh is used in a positive sense, a good sense, and that it can equally be used in a negative and evil sense. Someone is, or something is separated unto Yahuweh, or he/it is separated unto evil. Thus, the word qodesh applies to both.


If you ever saw R.C. Sproul's famous video series titled The Holiness of God in the late 80's early 90's you would have come away with a profound sense of the "other-than-ness" of God and humanity; the idea that God was totally separate was very well established by the excellent teacher. It left me feeling a little like that "high and lifted up / low and worm food" contrast. Almost more afraid of Him that wanting to move into His arms. Nothing was mentioned about love that I remember; which begs the question: What does the idea of separation have to do with love or does it have anything to do with love?

In a recent letter from John Eldridge he probes the same question. John concludes that holiness is evidenced in how we relate to one another. OK what does that have to do with separation. Then I read this in Quest for the Grail by Richard Rohr on page 70:

When love does not understand separation, when it fails to see that if people are not first apart they cannot unite, that union can have no rich or healing meaning unless it comes from separateness-that's when you have co-dependancy. I am so grateful someone created that word. Finally we have a term to describe the false meaning to an awful lot that is called love, to an awful lot that is called loyalty. Even in the church. Much of it is sick loyalty. Negative co-dependancy.......Group strength can never be a substitute for personal journey.

OK so now I'm beginning to see a connection. Perhaps unless one is separate, one can not fully love and for one to be truly separate, one must go on the journey to the Source and be filled by the Source. This certainly requires pulling apart from all of our human attachment - even the attachment within our selves that we strive for in our search for identity. And it makes much more sense to me that God would want us to be holy because that would require us choosing to separate ourselves to Him. And in going to Him we then have something of His nature - namely love - to offer others. This makes so much more sense that trying hard to be good, pious, devout etc.etc. Although the true essence of all of those things would flow from our souls with His loving touch.

So could "be holy as I am holy" be a call to be fully alive - a wholehearted person who has become alive as Sh/e has related with God. And as such has been liberated from the great human enmeshment dilemma and finally free to love instead of exploit??

Holiness and Love

've been thinking about the word holy as in "be holy as I am holy." What does that mean? Does it mean be good? Be moral? Be ethical? Be productive? Be kind? Be pious? Be devout?

Check out what one source claims about the Hebrew and Greek words for holy.


The Hebrew word qodesh and the equivalent Greek word hagios, together with their derivatives, have been translated with one of three words, or derivatives, in our older English versions, namely: holy, hallowed, or sanctified. Another word is also used in modern versions, and generally in ecclesiastical literature, namely: sacred. Most of us have the idea that this word has the meaning of piety, or being pious, or to be devout. However, this conception is refuted when we read in Isa. 66:17 of the idolatrous people "who sanctify (qadash) themselves and purify themselves, to go to the gardens after an idol in the midst, eating swine's flesh and the abomination and the mouse ...." This refutation of the incorrect idea that "holy" means "to be pious", is further confirmed by the shocking discovery that one of the Hebrew words for a harlot (whore) is qedeshah, a derivative of qadash! Likewise, a male prostitute (or sodomite) is called a qadesh in Hebrew. This then causes us to seek for the real meaning of the word qodesh (its verb being qadash) and its Greek equivalent hagios. The Interpreter's Dictionary of the Bible, vol. 2, p. 817, summarises what most authorities say about qodesh and hagios, ". . . the meaning of 'separation' is paramount ... the more elemental meaning seems to lie with 'separation'." The same dictionary, in vol. 4, p.210, says, "The basic sense of the Hebrew root qadash, as of its Greek equivalent in the Bible—hagios, seems to be 'separateness'." Likewise, Vine's Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words repeatedly emphasises the fact of the fundamental meaning of the word to be: "separation" (see under "holiness" and "sanctification"). With the discovery of the true meaning of this word, namely, separate and separation, we can now understand why qodesh is used in a positive sense, a good sense, and that it can equally be used in a negative and evil sense. Someone is, or something is separated unto Yahuweh, or he/it is separated unto evil. Thus, the word qodesh applies to both.


If you ever saw R.C. Sproul's famous video series titled The Holiness of God in the late 80's early 90's you would have come away with a profound sense of the "other-than-ness" of God and humanity; the idea that God was totally separate was very well established by the excellent teacher. It left me feeling a little like that "high and lifted up / low and worm food" contrast. Almost more afraid of Him that wanting to move into His arms. Nothing was mentioned about love that I remember; which begs the question: What does the idea of separation have to do with love or does it have anything to do with love?

In a recent letter from John Eldridge he probes the same question. John concludes that holiness is evidenced in how we relate to one another. OK what does that have to do with separation. Then I read this in Quest for the Grail by Richard Rohr on page 70:

When love does not understand separation, when it fails to see that if people are not first apart they cannot unite, that union can have no rich or healing meaning unless it comes from separateness-that's when you have co-dependancy. I am so grateful someone created that word. Finally we have a term to describe the false meaning to an awful lot that is called love, to an awful lot that is called loyalty. Even in the church. Much of it is sick loyalty. Negative co-dependancy.......Group strength can never be a substitute for personal journey.

OK so now I'm beginning to see a connection. Perhaps unless one is separate, one can not fully love and for one to be truly separate, one must go on the journey to the Source and be filled by the Source. This certainly requires pulling apart from all of our human attachment - even the attachment within our selves that we strive for in our search for identity. And it makes much more sense to me that God would want us to be holy because that would require us choosing to separate ourselves to Him. And in going to Him we then have something of His nature - namely love - to offer others. This makes so much more sense that trying hard to be good, pious, devout etc.etc. Although the true essence of all of those things would flow from our souls with His loving touch.

So could "be holy as I am holy" be a call to be fully alive - a wholehearted person who has become alive as Sh/e has related with God. And as such has been liberated from the great human enmeshment dilemma and finally free to love instead of exploit??

Monday, January 26, 2009

Luke and gravity

Follow up to discussion at Mark's house on 26 Jan 2009

Read Luke 4
*. The desert experience
-. What happened just before Christ was attacked by satan in the desert?
-. What did all the questions satan asked involve?
-. The 3 compulsions we all get to deal with - see blog
>.relevant
>.spectacular
>.powerful

Christ responded to satan with the Word, so should we.

Talked about 1 Peter 5:8; satan is as relentless as gravity in his attacks (the 'rock' example). He is raging with anger towards God (see Revelations) and cannot touch Him, so he attacks God's children.
1 Pet 5:8 is true
1 John 4:4 is true

Learn to recognize the voice of the liar (satan) and the voice of God the Father.

Closed with a number of men volenteering to lead three Service Teams. Those who will be a part of one of the service teams (a one time, 8 hour committment) please read the following blog on serving, and feel free to leave comments. Serving.

It was good to have Phil with us tonight, if you want to connect for prayer or a walk, let me know.
--
Mark
Cell 360 220-4726

Sunday, January 4, 2009

Three compulsions of the world

Referring to Christ’s forty day temptation in the desert Matt 4:1-11, Henri Nouwen observes:
“Solitude is the furnace of transformation. Without solitude we remain victims of our society and continue to be entangled in the illusions of the false self. Jesus himself entered into this furnace. There he was tempted with the three compulsions of the world: to be relevant, to be spectacular and to be powerful. There Christ affirmed God as the only source of his identity.”
“The Way of the Heart” p. 25

Christ is our model. As a man He had to deal with the same temptations as you and I. In this passage Christ exposes satan’s techniques and shows us how to win in these three critical areas of temptation: to be relevant, spectacular and powerful. We can also learn here three key aspects of battle; timing, attacks and response.

Timing: Satan attacks when we are weak, down, wounded, broken, …..
Attacks: Satan starts by questioning Christ’s fundamental identity – is He really the Son of God, does God really love Him? Then satan offers Christ immediate, easy satisfaction in the areas all men desire.
Response: Christ doesn’t argue with satan, He cuts no deals, makes no compromise – He returns to the Truth of Scripture and conforms His behavior to the Truth.

One last set of three’s – how do you see these three temptations as relating to the most visible areas in which we men fail: Sex, money, power?

Friday, September 26, 2008

Stepping into a Jordon

Lessons observed in reading Joshua 3 & 4 in time of stress and uncertainty: Believe, Step, Miracles, Evidence.

3:5 "Joshua told the people, 'Consecrate yourselves, for tomorrow the LORD will do amazing things among you.'"
** Joshua knew the character of God,believed what He said, and expected ‘amazing things’ from Him.

3:8b "When you reach the edge of the Jordan's waters, go and stand in the river."
** Step into what looks impossible or doesn’t seem to make sense, obedience leads faith

13:5-.. "Now the Jordan is at flood stage all during harvest. Yet as soon…the water from upstream stopped flowing."
** God will pick times and situations which accentuate the impossible and require the miraculous, to confirm His love and to glorify Himself.

4:5 "Go over before the ark of the LORD your God into the middle of the Jordan. Each of you is to take up a stone on his shoulder…... And they are there to this day."
** All of history records God’s presence – every physical event in the Bible left real evidence. There are thousands upon thousands of “to this day” in Israel.


How have you experienced God, or been challenged, in any of these four, or other ways?